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		<title>By: Bill Sledzik</title>
		<link>http://davefleet.com/2009/05/line-twitter-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-37148</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Sledzik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 13:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m late to the party, Dave. I must have missed your tweet last Friday! But also, the link didn&#039;t show up on my stats until yesterday. 
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Not sure there&#039;s much more to add other than to underscore the point I made in a comment on Jenn Mattern&#039;s post last week. Those who follow us on Twitter do so voluntarily, and that makes it permission-based. I don&#039;t feel guilty about tweeting my blog posts, nor to I feel bad (or even notice) if someone unfollows me. It happens. 
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But, like you, I do try to keep the &quot;horn tooting&quot; to a minimum. And if it eventually becomes uncool to tweet one&#039;s posts, I&#039;ll stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m late to the party, Dave. I must have missed your tweet last Friday! But also, the link didn&#8217;t show up on my stats until yesterday.<br />
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Not sure there&#8217;s much more to add other than to underscore the point I made in a comment on Jenn Mattern&#8217;s post last week. Those who follow us on Twitter do so voluntarily, and that makes it permission-based. I don&#8217;t feel guilty about tweeting my blog posts, nor to I feel bad (or even notice) if someone unfollows me. It happens.<br />
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But, like you, I do try to keep the &#8220;horn tooting&#8221; to a minimum. And if it eventually becomes uncool to tweet one&#8217;s posts, I&#8217;ll stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Linnet Woods</title>
		<link>http://davefleet.com/2009/05/line-twitter-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-36950</link>
		<dc:creator>Linnet Woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 00:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have a problem with people I follow tweeting a link to their own stuff, or even several, in amongst their other tweets, as it becomes relevant. That&#039;s what I do myself and people can tell me if they don&#039;t like it but nobody has said anything so far. 

One or two people have DMd to ask if I would move my daily quiz to another account because they thought it &#039;spammy&#039; and I have suggested that they simply un-follow me because the quiz unites a great many people in fun once a day, whether playing or following the players and comic tweeters who keep us all laughing with their spoof answers.

If I feel someone is spamming me, I will DM them to suggest they add a bit more conversation to the mix or reduce the frequency of self-promoting tweets and if they still spam me I just quietly un-follow them.

Some people&#039;s constant stream of linked tweets are very useful, after all, if they are tweeting stuff one wants to stay abreast of!

I don&#039;t think any of us should be drawing lines for each other. If your activities are anti-social, your falling follower count will, surely, create a line all by itself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with people I follow tweeting a link to their own stuff, or even several, in amongst their other tweets, as it becomes relevant. That&#8217;s what I do myself and people can tell me if they don&#8217;t like it but nobody has said anything so far. </p>
<p>One or two people have DMd to ask if I would move my daily quiz to another account because they thought it &#8216;spammy&#8217; and I have suggested that they simply un-follow me because the quiz unites a great many people in fun once a day, whether playing or following the players and comic tweeters who keep us all laughing with their spoof answers.</p>
<p>If I feel someone is spamming me, I will DM them to suggest they add a bit more conversation to the mix or reduce the frequency of self-promoting tweets and if they still spam me I just quietly un-follow them.</p>
<p>Some people&#8217;s constant stream of linked tweets are very useful, after all, if they are tweeting stuff one wants to stay abreast of!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think any of us should be drawing lines for each other. If your activities are anti-social, your falling follower count will, surely, create a line all by itself!</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://davefleet.com/2009/05/line-twitter-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-36949</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 23:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things (my opinions): 1) I&#039;m one of those &quot;ghost writers&quot; who gets paid to write content for sites.  As far as I&#039;m concerned, when I write that content, it is my content until I publish it.  It is then the site owner&#039;s content.  Readers should understand that 80% of the stuff you read online was probably not written by the person publishing it or whose name is on it.  Neither are most of the &quot;autobiographies&quot; you read.  Ghost writing is one of the largest sectors of writing both online and off--it&#039;s just not as glamorous as writing novels or screenplays. :)

2) Spam is something everyone knows about, but no one can really define.  As far as I&#039;m concerned, if the service you&#039;re using (like Twitter) gives you the ability to block or &quot;unfriend&quot; people you don&#039;t want to hear from, nothing you&#039;re receiving through that service is spam.  You can unsubscribe from any feed you&#039;re getting.  I do this all the time, as I&#039;m not into network marketing other than to write about it when people ask me to.  If I get more than a couple of &quot;join my MLM&quot; or &quot;see how great this $-making blah blah is&quot; from someone (within a few hours of each other), I blcok them from my Tweet feed.  

I do this with emails (blacklists) and so forth.  One more note: if you&#039;re creating a Twitter or Facebook or whatever account for your marketing, be sure to say that in your bio.  Nothing peeves people more than listing yourself as &quot;normal&quot; and then having a feed full of marketing links.  THAT will get your account shut down faster than anything.  Twitter and Facebook could care less if you&#039;re &quot;legitimate&quot; or not, if they get enough complaints, it&#039;s easier for them to just close your account than it is to &quot;work it out.&quot;  

Anyway, I personally can&#039;t see how Twitter can be that great of a tool for marketing, but maybe that&#039;s because I&#039;m not into marketing.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things (my opinions): 1) I&#8217;m one of those &#8220;ghost writers&#8221; who gets paid to write content for sites.  As far as I&#8217;m concerned, when I write that content, it is my content until I publish it.  It is then the site owner&#8217;s content.  Readers should understand that 80% of the stuff you read online was probably not written by the person publishing it or whose name is on it.  Neither are most of the &#8220;autobiographies&#8221; you read.  Ghost writing is one of the largest sectors of writing both online and off&#8211;it&#8217;s just not as glamorous as writing novels or screenplays. <img src='http://davefleet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>2) Spam is something everyone knows about, but no one can really define.  As far as I&#8217;m concerned, if the service you&#8217;re using (like Twitter) gives you the ability to block or &#8220;unfriend&#8221; people you don&#8217;t want to hear from, nothing you&#8217;re receiving through that service is spam.  You can unsubscribe from any feed you&#8217;re getting.  I do this all the time, as I&#8217;m not into network marketing other than to write about it when people ask me to.  If I get more than a couple of &#8220;join my MLM&#8221; or &#8220;see how great this $-making blah blah is&#8221; from someone (within a few hours of each other), I blcok them from my Tweet feed.  </p>
<p>I do this with emails (blacklists) and so forth.  One more note: if you&#8217;re creating a Twitter or Facebook or whatever account for your marketing, be sure to say that in your bio.  Nothing peeves people more than listing yourself as &#8220;normal&#8221; and then having a feed full of marketing links.  THAT will get your account shut down faster than anything.  Twitter and Facebook could care less if you&#8217;re &#8220;legitimate&#8221; or not, if they get enough complaints, it&#8217;s easier for them to just close your account than it is to &#8220;work it out.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Anyway, I personally can&#8217;t see how Twitter can be that great of a tool for marketing, but maybe that&#8217;s because I&#8217;m not into marketing.  <img src='http://davefleet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Greg Wall</title>
		<link>http://davefleet.com/2009/05/line-twitter-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-36946</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Wall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 23:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that &#039;gray areas&#039; do not really exist.  If someone else contends they do then the difference in our opinion is the &#039;gray area&#039; between my black and their white.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that &#8216;gray areas&#8217; do not really exist.  If someone else contends they do then the difference in our opinion is the &#8216;gray area&#8217; between my black and their white.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 19:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say &quot;No&quot;, it doesn&#039;t constitute as spam.

Think of conversations you have offline. Generally you&#039;ll talk about work and what you do, as well as the other stuff happening in your life.

Why would Twitter be any different? 

People will either like it or not, and that&#039;s the choice at the end of the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say &#8220;No&#8221;, it doesn&#8217;t constitute as spam.</p>
<p>Think of conversations you have offline. Generally you&#8217;ll talk about work and what you do, as well as the other stuff happening in your life.</p>
<p>Why would Twitter be any different? </p>
<p>People will either like it or not, and that&#8217;s the choice at the end of the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthias</title>
		<link>http://davefleet.com/2009/05/line-twitter-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-36798</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 18:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post. Twit spams are those that are irrelevant to the readers. Does not matter if you twit 20 times a day about your personal life and link it to your blog. As long as your readers find value in your twit then it is not a spam. Twit with the readers in mind. My 2cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post. Twit spams are those that are irrelevant to the readers. Does not matter if you twit 20 times a day about your personal life and link it to your blog. As long as your readers find value in your twit then it is not a spam. Twit with the readers in mind. My 2cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Louise Armstrong</title>
		<link>http://davefleet.com/2009/05/line-twitter-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-36664</link>
		<dc:creator>Louise Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 17:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i really enjoy your blog and read the posts semi-regularly through my reader.  i&#039;m okay with people occasionally tweeting links but personally, i think it should be selective, not automatic.  for example, if there&#039;s a major news story happening and someone blogs about it, it&#039;s okay to tweet the link but, imho, tweeting about every blog post could be venturing into the spam territory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i really enjoy your blog and read the posts semi-regularly through my reader.  i&#8217;m okay with people occasionally tweeting links but personally, i think it should be selective, not automatic.  for example, if there&#8217;s a major news story happening and someone blogs about it, it&#8217;s okay to tweet the link but, imho, tweeting about every blog post could be venturing into the spam territory.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 17:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you’re constantly having conversations - discussing things, offering advice and sharing. I think that builds-up the social capital to be able to throw in an occasional link to your content.&quot; - Great point.
Twitter is (or can be) snippets of conversations about broader topics. One way to facilitate that conversation is through blogging. If you want to discuss something that&#039;s important to you, why not post a link to a post you just wrote, and then discuss it on twitter or here in the comments section?
-Sean (@InSeansOpinion)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you’re constantly having conversations &#8211; discussing things, offering advice and sharing. I think that builds-up the social capital to be able to throw in an occasional link to your content.&#8221; &#8211; Great point.<br />
Twitter is (or can be) snippets of conversations about broader topics. One way to facilitate that conversation is through blogging. If you want to discuss something that&#8217;s important to you, why not post a link to a post you just wrote, and then discuss it on twitter or here in the comments section?<br />
-Sean (@InSeansOpinion)</p>
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		<title>By: The Lovable Rogue</title>
		<link>http://davefleet.com/2009/05/line-twitter-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-36655</link>
		<dc:creator>The Lovable Rogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 17:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely agree with you Lindsey; a single tweet highlighting a blog post in a regular stream of tweets is fine.  It&#039;s when a person repeats two or three tweets ten to twenty times in a day that it becomes spammy; a practice I have recently experienced with some of my followers...

One of the interesting elements to emerge from the Twitter platform going mainstream is the increasing importance of having to really sell content.  As the torrent of tweet streams swell, we are having to work harder to draw attention to the content we post.  It is important to note that this is true not just for our content, but for any content that we choose to bring to the attention of the community.  How we use the 140 character limit to sell this content is hugely important, and if employed monotonously, this headline capacity will fail to draw clicks; irrespective of who has produced it.  The best analogy I can give is that of a paper.  When you buy a newspaper (or subscribe to a feed), you assume that there will be some articles written by the paper&#039;s own staff, in addition to the insertion of outside thoughts and opinion.  This is something we buy into in both cases.  As you suggest Dave, if we don&#039;t like it, we can simply cut it off.

At the end of the day, it&#039;s about drawing attention.  If you are creative in how you do this, then I think it&#039;s ok to post links to your own content.  The success or otherwise thereof will ultimately be determined by the community.

Chris
TLR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely agree with you Lindsey; a single tweet highlighting a blog post in a regular stream of tweets is fine.  It&#8217;s when a person repeats two or three tweets ten to twenty times in a day that it becomes spammy; a practice I have recently experienced with some of my followers&#8230;</p>
<p>One of the interesting elements to emerge from the Twitter platform going mainstream is the increasing importance of having to really sell content.  As the torrent of tweet streams swell, we are having to work harder to draw attention to the content we post.  It is important to note that this is true not just for our content, but for any content that we choose to bring to the attention of the community.  How we use the 140 character limit to sell this content is hugely important, and if employed monotonously, this headline capacity will fail to draw clicks; irrespective of who has produced it.  The best analogy I can give is that of a paper.  When you buy a newspaper (or subscribe to a feed), you assume that there will be some articles written by the paper&#8217;s own staff, in addition to the insertion of outside thoughts and opinion.  This is something we buy into in both cases.  As you suggest Dave, if we don&#8217;t like it, we can simply cut it off.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, it&#8217;s about drawing attention.  If you are creative in how you do this, then I think it&#8217;s ok to post links to your own content.  The success or otherwise thereof will ultimately be determined by the community.</p>
<p>Chris<br />
TLR</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsey</title>
		<link>http://davefleet.com/2009/05/line-twitter-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-36627</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 16:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post. I usually post to my blog once a day (and I make an average of 5-6 tweets a day). I don&#039;t think that constitutes spam. Although it does get annoying when people post their blog post over and over again. This is when I can start to see it getting a bit spammy. 

But as Kerri said, it adds value to the conversation.  

For me, I find I have a lot of Twitter followers who don&#039;t read my blog, so linking there when I can is important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post. I usually post to my blog once a day (and I make an average of 5-6 tweets a day). I don&#8217;t think that constitutes spam. Although it does get annoying when people post their blog post over and over again. This is when I can start to see it getting a bit spammy. </p>
<p>But as Kerri said, it adds value to the conversation.  </p>
<p>For me, I find I have a lot of Twitter followers who don&#8217;t read my blog, so linking there when I can is important.</p>
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