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		<title>By: Scott Clark</title>
		<link>http://davefleet.com/2009/06/feedburner-friendfeed-failburner/comment-page-1/#comment-104510</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 00:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now.. the friendfeed numbers are gone from the statistics.  This is very good - philosophically, but ego-centric clients go ape-shit.  

Feedburner is a pox on Google&#039;s brand until they figure something out.    No support.  No consistency.   I expect more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now.. the friendfeed numbers are gone from the statistics.  This is very good &#8211; philosophically, but ego-centric clients go ape-shit.  </p>
<p>Feedburner is a pox on Google&#8217;s brand until they figure something out.    No support.  No consistency.   I expect more.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Clark</title>
		<link>http://davefleet.com/2009/06/feedburner-friendfeed-failburner/comment-page-1/#comment-104509</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 00:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now.. the friendfeed numbers are gone from the statistics.  This is very good - philosophically, but ego-centric clients go ape-shit.

Feedburner is a pox on Google&#039;s brand until they figure something out.    No support.  No consistency.   I expect more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now.. the friendfeed numbers are gone from the statistics.  This is very good &#8211; philosophically, but ego-centric clients go ape-shit.</p>
<p>Feedburner is a pox on Google&#8217;s brand until they figure something out.    No support.  No consistency.   I expect more.</p>
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		<title>By: Feedburner and Friendfeed - Taking all credibility away from Feedburner's readership chicklet</title>
		<link>http://davefleet.com/2009/06/feedburner-friendfeed-failburner/comment-page-1/#comment-104508</link>
		<dc:creator>Feedburner and Friendfeed - Taking all credibility away from Feedburner's readership chicklet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 00:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] To accumulate FriendFeed subscribers, and therefore your Feedburner count, you simply need to boost your following&#8230; which can be Astroturfed with little effort.   Even though the audience-size-as-influence-factor has been debunked (google doc), services have cropped up to help you build that &#8220;audience&#8221;&#8230;.&#8221;I CAN GET U 10,000 FOLLOWERS FOR $150&#8243; type ads are all over networks such as MySpace and Google&#8217;s ad network.  Retweet bots can also increase the appearance of influence even further (without actually increasing it, like you would if you followed these tips.  Even if you don&#8217;t &#8220;buy&#8221; followers, there are plenty of &#8220;select-all&#8221; tools on the web that use the Twitter API to follow large groups of people (and bots) with very few mouse clicks, and most users don&#8217;t know how to spot a fake follower count. Just friendfeed everyone who follows you on Twitter and voila&#8230; Friendfeed numbers galore&#8230; without anyone ever looking at your blog. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] To accumulate FriendFeed subscribers, and therefore your Feedburner count, you simply need to boost your following&#8230; which can be Astroturfed with little effort.   Even though the audience-size-as-influence-factor has been debunked (google doc), services have cropped up to help you build that &#8220;audience&#8221;&#8230;.&#8221;I CAN GET U 10,000 FOLLOWERS FOR $150&#8243; type ads are all over networks such as MySpace and Google&#8217;s ad network.  Retweet bots can also increase the appearance of influence even further (without actually increasing it, like you would if you followed these tips.  Even if you don&#8217;t &#8220;buy&#8221; followers, there are plenty of &#8220;select-all&#8221; tools on the web that use the Twitter API to follow large groups of people (and bots) with very few mouse clicks, and most users don&#8217;t know how to spot a fake follower count. Just friendfeed everyone who follows you on Twitter and voila&#8230; Friendfeed numbers galore&#8230; without anyone ever looking at your blog. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 21 Tips for Getting 500 Subscribers in 90 Days with No Blogging Experience - Free Pursuits</title>
		<link>http://davefleet.com/2009/06/feedburner-friendfeed-failburner/comment-page-1/#comment-43487</link>
		<dc:creator>21 Tips for Getting 500 Subscribers in 90 Days with No Blogging Experience - Free Pursuits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] new answer to getting FeedBurner subscribers is to get FriendFeed subscribers. Google may have just killed the usefulness of the Feedburner chiclet. If you&#8217;re still interested in getting RSS subscribers, read the tips [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] new answer to getting FeedBurner subscribers is to get FriendFeed subscribers. Google may have just killed the usefulness of the Feedburner chiclet. If you&#8217;re still interested in getting RSS subscribers, read the tips [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://davefleet.com/2009/06/feedburner-friendfeed-failburner/comment-page-1/#comment-43426</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is optional, you don&#039;t have to give Feedburner your RSS feed at all, and you don&#039;t have to use the same one.

There are plenty of methods to create an extra RSS feed, maybe as a separate Feedburner feed.

I agree with Aaron to some extent that it is a measure of attention, though as I suggested over a year ago, when it does get implemented it should somehow reflect active users.

I don&#039;t think Feedburner has measured exact subscriber numbers for a long time - as an example there used to be a jump in numbers if your feed was shared in Google Reader.

For many blogs the real attention is in email lists and twitter followers, or even Facebook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is optional, you don&#8217;t have to give Feedburner your RSS feed at all, and you don&#8217;t have to use the same one.</p>
<p>There are plenty of methods to create an extra RSS feed, maybe as a separate Feedburner feed.</p>
<p>I agree with Aaron to some extent that it is a measure of attention, though as I suggested over a year ago, when it does get implemented it should somehow reflect active users.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Feedburner has measured exact subscriber numbers for a long time &#8211; as an example there used to be a jump in numbers if your feed was shared in Google Reader.</p>
<p>For many blogs the real attention is in email lists and twitter followers, or even Facebook.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Russell</title>
		<link>http://davefleet.com/2009/06/feedburner-friendfeed-failburner/comment-page-1/#comment-43388</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So now I know why my subscribers jumped so much but my page views didn&#039;t! Basically the Feedburner number is meaningless. Kind of like Technorati authority number -- a quaint reminder of the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now I know why my subscribers jumped so much but my page views didn&#8217;t! Basically the Feedburner number is meaningless. Kind of like Technorati authority number &#8212; a quaint reminder of the past.</p>
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		<title>By: Do We Even Need FeedBurner Anymore?</title>
		<link>http://davefleet.com/2009/06/feedburner-friendfeed-failburner/comment-page-1/#comment-43385</link>
		<dc:creator>Do We Even Need FeedBurner Anymore?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve been thinking a lot about FeedBurner&#8217;s new changes where it includes FriendFeed subscribers in its total subscriber count. Unless FeedBurner removes this new feature, subscriber stats may be flawed forever. I don&#8217;t want to bore you with all the reasons why this is a bad idea, so instead I&#8217;m just going to say I agree with David Spinks, Rob Diana, and Dave Fleet. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve been thinking a lot about FeedBurner&#8217;s new changes where it includes FriendFeed subscribers in its total subscriber count. Unless FeedBurner removes this new feature, subscriber stats may be flawed forever. I don&#8217;t want to bore you with all the reasons why this is a bad idea, so instead I&#8217;m just going to say I agree with David Spinks, Rob Diana, and Dave Fleet. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: michelfortin (Michel Fortin)</title>
		<link>http://davefleet.com/2009/06/feedburner-friendfeed-failburner/comment-page-1/#comment-43379</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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Reading: Feedburner and FriendFeed: FailBurner (seen this @AndyBeard?) [link to post]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; - &lt;a href=&quot;http://chatcatcher.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Posted using Chat Catcher&lt;/a&gt; </description>
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Reading: Feedburner and FriendFeed: FailBurner (seen this @AndyBeard?) [link to post]</p>
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		<title>By: mikeschaffer (mikeschaffer)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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@Scribnia how do i change classification of my blog? it is currently &#8220;humor&#8221; but SHOULD be &#8220;marketing and media?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Scribnia (Scribnia)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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Two diff takes on the friendfeed integration in feedburned by @davefleet  [link to post] and @adampieniazek http://bit.ly/tPWNb&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; - &lt;a href=&quot;http://chatcatcher.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Posted using Chat Catcher&lt;/a&gt; </description>
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Two diff takes on the friendfeed integration in feedburned by @davefleet  [link to post] and @adampieniazek <a href="http://bit.ly/tPWNb" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/tPWNb</a></p>
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