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		<title>By: prmaven</title>
		<link>http://davefleet.com/2009/07/social-media-roi/comment-page-1/#comment-164742</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 02:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You made a point that I think many people forget.  No matter how marketers validate their social media programs (which I think are an important component in any marketing mix), the higher ups always ask for ROI.  No way around it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You made a point that I think many people forget.  No matter how marketers validate their social media programs (which I think are an important component in any marketing mix), the higher ups always ask for ROI.  No way around it.</p>
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		<title>By: Return On Influence Can Return From Whence It Came &#124; davefleet.com</title>
		<link>http://davefleet.com/2009/07/social-media-roi/comment-page-2/#comment-164637</link>
		<dc:creator>Return On Influence Can Return From Whence It Came &#124; davefleet.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 11:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] written on this before (check out this post from two years ago) but here we go [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] written on this before (check out this post from two years ago) but here we go [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Social Media ROI and Socialnomics &#124; Matt Baril</title>
		<link>http://davefleet.com/2009/07/social-media-roi/comment-page-2/#comment-73826</link>
		<dc:creator>Social Media ROI and Socialnomics &#124; Matt Baril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Enough with Misusing Social Media Roi, Already &#8211; Dave Fleet [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Top 10 DaveFleet.com Posts Of 2009 &#124; davefleet.com</title>
		<link>http://davefleet.com/2009/07/social-media-roi/comment-page-2/#comment-69774</link>
		<dc:creator>Top 10 DaveFleet.com Posts Of 2009 &#124; davefleet.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 10. Enough with Misusing Social Media ROI, Already [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Are Clients Ready for PR 2.0? :PRBreakfastClub</title>
		<link>http://davefleet.com/2009/07/social-media-roi/comment-page-2/#comment-65971</link>
		<dc:creator>Are Clients Ready for PR 2.0? :PRBreakfastClub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 05:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] While I would love to dive right in and say &#8220;YES! YES! YES!&#8221; unfortunately, I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s quite that simple. When we &#8211; PR/MarComm/social media professionals &#8211; ask that question of ourselves, I&#8217;m sure many of us say &#8220;Yes!&#8221; but are we even that confident in our answer? The fact is, there is no doubt many of us in PR are trying incredibly hard to get up to speed with PR 2.0, learn as much as we can about integrating social media with PR and how we can really powerfully reach a brand or organization&#8217;s target audience. But the reality is that we live in a business climate, where time still does equal money (and boy does it ever in this economy), and where the jury is still out regarding exactly how much ROI social media can produce. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] While I would love to dive right in and say &#8220;YES! YES! YES!&#8221; unfortunately, I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s quite that simple. When we &#8211; PR/MarComm/social media professionals &#8211; ask that question of ourselves, I&#8217;m sure many of us say &#8220;Yes!&#8221; but are we even that confident in our answer? The fact is, there is no doubt many of us in PR are trying incredibly hard to get up to speed with PR 2.0, learn as much as we can about integrating social media with PR and how we can really powerfully reach a brand or organization&#8217;s target audience. But the reality is that we live in a business climate, where time still does equal money (and boy does it ever in this economy), and where the jury is still out regarding exactly how much ROI social media can produce. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Two Social Media Metrics &#171; Enfuse Group</title>
		<link>http://davefleet.com/2009/07/social-media-roi/comment-page-2/#comment-63198</link>
		<dc:creator>Two Social Media Metrics &#171; Enfuse Group</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 04:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is this big debate about if you should or should not try and determine ROI on social media efforts.&#160; I am clearly in the former [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is this big debate about if you should or should not try and determine ROI on social media efforts.&#160; I am clearly in the former [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Top Ten blogs: Social Media Measurement &#171; The Seldom Seen Kid</title>
		<link>http://davefleet.com/2009/07/social-media-roi/comment-page-2/#comment-58644</link>
		<dc:creator>Top Ten blogs: Social Media Measurement &#171; The Seldom Seen Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] just cannot shoe-horn metrics into Social Media 6) The Business Problems With Social Media ROI 7) Enough With Social Media ROI, Already 8) Social Media ROI is about Conversation not Numbers 9) Social media ROI: is it worth waiting for? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] just cannot shoe-horn metrics into Social Media 6) The Business Problems With Social Media ROI 7) Enough With Social Media ROI, Already <img src='http://davefleet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Social Media ROI is about Conversation not Numbers 9) Social media ROI: is it worth waiting for? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sethgruglepr (Seth Grugle PR)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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Enough With Social Media ROI, Already // davefleet.com [link to post] (AMEN, @davefleet!)</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Kistner</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think social media ROI is fairly easy from a marketing stand point. In B2B marketing, you want to drive traffic from the web to your properties (like a blog or .com) and capture conversions in your CRM as leads. There are intermediate steps in there that have their own health indicators, like relationship building and output. But the bottom line hasn&#039;t changed.

In B2C, it&#039;s either used for branding and is measured in terms of exposure. Or it&#039;s used to drive traffic to marketing programs, like a coupon offering, which is measured in terms of conversion. Or it drives traffic to an ecommerce site where it&#039;s measured in terms of sales.

The hard part is getting the tracking all set up. You need analytics software to connect to market automation software with both dumping data into a CRM. While it&#039;s conceptually easy, integration is time intensive and expensive, which makes it inaccessible to most people using social media.

How many people are using a set up like Webtrends Analytics integrated with Eloqua, Radian6, and Salesforce? Probably not many. That is why people are struggling with how to prove ROI. We simply lack the integrated systems that do it, which is mostly a resourcing issue.

Regardless, from a marketing perspective social media offers additional channels and should be measured in comparison to the other channels, like email and advertising, to know how much budget to allocate to it.

Marketing isn&#039;t the only thing you can do with social media, though. You can also use it to administer support. In which case you measure value in terms of reduction in phone calls, number of cases closed per person compared to other channels, and other traditional support and call center KPIs.

HR has it&#039;s own KPIs. So does Product. So does IT...etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think social media ROI is fairly easy from a marketing stand point. In B2B marketing, you want to drive traffic from the web to your properties (like a blog or .com) and capture conversions in your CRM as leads. There are intermediate steps in there that have their own health indicators, like relationship building and output. But the bottom line hasn&#8217;t changed.</p>
<p>In B2C, it&#8217;s either used for branding and is measured in terms of exposure. Or it&#8217;s used to drive traffic to marketing programs, like a coupon offering, which is measured in terms of conversion. Or it drives traffic to an ecommerce site where it&#8217;s measured in terms of sales.</p>
<p>The hard part is getting the tracking all set up. You need analytics software to connect to market automation software with both dumping data into a CRM. While it&#8217;s conceptually easy, integration is time intensive and expensive, which makes it inaccessible to most people using social media.</p>
<p>How many people are using a set up like Webtrends Analytics integrated with Eloqua, Radian6, and Salesforce? Probably not many. That is why people are struggling with how to prove ROI. We simply lack the integrated systems that do it, which is mostly a resourcing issue.</p>
<p>Regardless, from a marketing perspective social media offers additional channels and should be measured in comparison to the other channels, like email and advertising, to know how much budget to allocate to it.</p>
<p>Marketing isn&#8217;t the only thing you can do with social media, though. You can also use it to administer support. In which case you measure value in terms of reduction in phone calls, number of cases closed per person compared to other channels, and other traditional support and call center KPIs.</p>
<p>HR has it&#8217;s own KPIs. So does Product. So does IT&#8230;etc.</p>
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		<title>By: eliselipoff (Elise Lipoff)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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