Posts Tagged ‘Yammer’

Present.ly – Internal Microblogging Just Got Better

Present.lyLast September I wrote about Yammer, a Twitter-like “microblogging” service designed for internal use by organizations. At the time I decided I liked it, describing it as “Twitter behind the firewall… and turbocharged.”

Issues with Yammer

We tried Yammer out for a while, and I revisited the tool about a month later on this site to look at different perspectives on Yammer’s pros and cons. Essentially Yammer’s effectiveness seemed to come down to organizational culture – if your culture supported a tool like that then great; otherwise it would fail.

However, we also encountered another problem: Yammer restricts membership in a network by email domain. Our company has two units– the public relations group at Thornley Fallis, and our colleagues on the web/interactive side at 76design. We have different email addresses for each unit, so we couldn’t all be part of the same Yammer network.

We toyed with the idea of building an application in-house, but instead recently chose to try out a different application, Present.ly, for our organization.

As it says on its site, “Present.ly is a simple, private way to keep everyone up-to-date.” Like Yammer, it’s like an up-market Twitter for use within your organization.

My first impressions: very good, but still a little buggy.

As we did with Yammer, let’s take a look at the pros and cons in turn.

Pros

  • Allows membership by invitation, by domain, by access code or open to everyone.
  • Present.ly’s groups feature lets you limit your posts to the people who will find them relevant.
    • For example, we’ve set up a group for each geographic location and one for each division.
  • Desktop, Blackberry, android and iPhone applications, although we haven’t been able to get the Blackberry one to work yet.
  • Neat icons appear next to posts when they include a question (?) or an urgent message (!!!).
  • Mimics most Twitter syntax, and has an easy-to-access syntax guide to help new users.
  • Automatic updating on the Present.ly site; no need to refresh.
  • Ability to turn most email notifications on or off.
  • Ability to integrate posts with Twitter.
  • Allows you to attach files to posts (contrary to Stowe Boyd’s post, you can track files – under the ‘browse’ tab then under ‘files’)
  • Built-in hashtags (now built-in to Twitter, but wasn’t originally) let you track issues or client posts internally. We use it to track IT issues, for example.
  • If you run over the 140 character limit, Present.ly gives you two options instead of cutting you off:
    • You can keep typing and it will simply split your message into two posts.
    • You can ‘attach’ more text to your post.

 

Cons

  • Desktop app has a nasty habit of going into an infinite login window-creating loop if the login window loses focus. The only solution is to reboot. Not cool.
  • Desktop app can be a bit of a memory hog – seems to be a memory leak in there.
  • Several of us have had issues with the desktop app not refreshing automatically.
  • Syntax is a little picky – allows @ replies to be anywhere within posts, but only highlights them as replies if the @[username] is at the beginning of the message.
  • You can’t turn all email notifications off, so when an organization first starts using Present.ly the resulting email deluge is a nightmare.
  • Confusion over groups and following people – if you don’t follow someone but they post to a group you’re in, do you see the post? My feeling: you should. In practice: you don’t. That means you need to follow everyone in your groups.
    • In some cases you may not want to see everything so this could be fine (in large groups where you don’t know everyone, for example). However, the lack of clarity on this is an issue.

Conclusion

I like Yammer, but it has its limitations. Present.ly solves those limitations, but it does come with a few shortcomings of its own. They’re not as deal-breaking as Yammer’s issues for me, though, so Present.ly wins with me.

Once again, our success with this tool is going to come down to whether people use it constructively over time; many people are new to this kind of tool. I co-hosted a lunch and learn session for our Toronto office on the tool last week, and it was good to see the lightbulb go off with some people. Still it’s going to take some adjustment.

In the meantime, we’ve already started to see a few good uses:

  • Tracking IT issues using hashtags
  • Organizing people into common-sense, useful groups
  • Many-to-many conversations within groups
  • Sharing business successes throughout the company

I’m hoping to see this expand to cover more things – client-specific conversations and client groups, company-wide collaboration and more. Time will tell.

Have you used Present.ly? Yammer? Do you have a preference? What do you think of them? Do you think any of them have potential?

Julie HacheUpdate: My colleague Julie Hache has written an excellent & eloquent post over at 76design’s Shift+Control blog with her thoughts on Present.ly. Check it out.

Yammer – Useful To You?

Yammer logo About a month ago I wrote about Yammer, the "Twitter behind the firewall" service that won the top prize at this year’s TechCrunch50 conference.

At the time I wrote:

I expect Yammer’s success in any particular company to be determined by organizational culture, how it is implemented and whether people actually use it, rather than shortcomings of the service.

Both before and after that post, we’ve been trying-out Yammer at work. Today I and a few of my colleagues exchanged opinions on the service and, unsurprisingly, there were a variety of opinions expressed.

Differing opinions

Some people (myself included) thought that Yammer has the potential, especially in companies where people are geographically distributed, to help groups of coworkers to collaborate more closely without clogging inboxes; essentially functioning as a group instant messenger service.

Other people, meanwhile, felt that Yammer can be distracting and that it duplicates both email and IM.

Broader input

To get a better idea of other peoples’ perspectives, I threw a quick question out on Twitter:

"Interesting conversation at work today – are Yammer/other ‘internal’ microblogging services just replicating email? Do we need them?"

Also unsurprisingly, given the social media types in my Twitter crowd, the conversation that emerged was generally positive about the service:

Eden Spodek: @davefleet I think Yammer etc. makes a lot more sense in a large enterprise than in a small office where email and f2f is just fine.

Shannon Whitley: @EdenSpodek There are a lot of small offices these days where all of workers are virtual (e.g. Automattic). Microsharing perfect there.

Eden Spodek: @swhitley Agreed. I was thinking of offices where people share the same physical space. I should have specified.

Shannon Whitley: @edenspodek I knew what you meant, and I agree with you.

Yammer Team: @davefleet The difference is that you get to choose what messages you receive on Yammer, but not through email. Use the ‘following’ feature.

Jenny Bullough: @davefleet @edenspodek We’re trying out Yammer for short convs btwn Tdot and NYC offices – faster than email and no-one feels out of loop

Daniele Rossi: @davefleet We use it at my work on a small scale and so far it seems not be redundant.

Rob Tyrie: @davefleet by inspection if email could do what twitter does… there would be no twitter… email has it’s uses but it’s not everything.

What do you think?

Personally, right now I’m on the fence. I still think Yammer has potential but, as I said originally and as with any IT solution, that success depends on whether and how people use the service and whether it fits with your organization’s culture.

I’m going to bend my mind to this a bit more over the next day or so… but if you’ve used Yammer, what do you think?

Yammer – Twitter Behind the Firewall… and Turbocharged

Yammer logo If you follow the bright new shiny object brigade, you probably already know about Yammer, the company that takes Twitter‘s concept and applying it to corporate communications. Yammer won the top award at the recent TechCruch50 conference, and has already accomplished what Twitter has so far failed to do: it has a business model.

We’ve been trying Yammer out in our office over the last week or so and I have a few observations on things I do and don’t like. First, though, a little bit about the service.

Yammer essentially takes Twitter, fixes all the things you don’t like about it, and slaps a gate in front of your network so only people in your company can see what you write. Access is determined primarily by domain name – you need a corporate email address to join. That, in theory, makes it a lot easier for people to collaborate on work over the service than on Twitter, as they don’t have to worry about others seeing proprietary information.

Yammer’s business model is built around enhanced enterprise features. For a whopping $1 per company user per month, you gain access to admin features including:

  • The ability to remove company members (essentially, to ‘claim’ your company’s network) and delete messages
  • Set password policies
  • Set additional security options when people log in from new computers
  • Restrict access via IP numbers to your corporate network or VPN users
  • White-label your network

With the basics said, here are my thoughts…

Pros

  • Yammer itself provides both a desktop and blackberry/iPhone apps, and provides SMS and instant messenger integration
  • Yammer’s web interface is everything Twitter’s isn’t (but should have been a long time ago). Think of something about Twitter’s web interface that frustrates you; chances are that Yammer has fixed it:
    • It updates automatically
    • It sorts conversations into threads
    • It picks up @[username] replies wherever they are in your message
  • You don’t have to see messages from everyone in your company; like Twitter, Yammer lets you subscribe to individual users’ updates.
  • Because the service is small and, by its nature will grow relatively slower, it should experience less reliability problems than its predecessors
  • The service provides an effective, real-time way for people to collaborate across teams or organizations. While we use IM at work, Yammer is an effective way to throw a query out to lots of people without clogging their inboxes
  • Yammer has tagging built-in. This provides an effective way to track project-related work. Tag all your messages with #ProjectX and you have an easily-accessible record of conversations around that project. Yammer’s web interface shows the most common tags in the sidebar
  • The corporate nature of Yammer means you don’t get the useless noise that Twitter suffers from. The signal/noise ratio is much higher here
  • You could create your own version of Yammer in-house, but the point of Yammer is that it means you don’t have to go to that hassle. That’s a big plus for a lot of companies.

Cons

  • As Mathew Ingram points out, Twitter could implement Yammer’s functionality without too much difficulty. Yammer would be obsolete overnight
  • If your company has multiple domains for email (as ours does), there’s no way to get everyone on the network without subscribing to Yammer’s premium option
  • As with any enterprise application, you get out what everyone puts in. The people I see using Yammer are the same people who are active on services like Twitter anyway. Services like Yammer experience the same network effects as email or, historically, the fax machine – the more people that use it, the more valuable it becomes. Unless most people in your company use it, you’re effectively just replicating an instant messenger service
  • I wish it didn’t ask “What are you working on?” on the web interface. It’s too easy for people who are new to this type of service to take it literally. Knowing that you’re working on a presentation for conference X means little to me. I only care what you’re doing if you need help, if you’re helping me or if you’re sharing something important or interesting related to our business
  • Sharing corporate work on a third-party service raises a couple of issues, which may be more or less important depending on how much you trust cloud computing:
    • From a company knowledge-management perspective it’s hard to work a service like Yammer into your system. The laconi.ca/Twhirl system proposed by Chris Brogan may be preferable from that perspective
    • The fact that your data is stored by a third party may raise concerns over data security (again, depending on your trust level)
    • Yammer is a startup. There’s a risk that if your project information is hosted with the service and it goes down, then you’ll lose your project history.

Conclusion

Bottom line: I like Yammer. I don’t know if it deserved to win the TC50 award or not, given that Yammer largely replicates existing services, but it does what it sets out to do, it does it effectively and, unlike many social media companies, it does so with a business model.

I expect Yammer’s success in any particular company to be determined by organizational culture, how it is implemented and whether people actually use it, rather than shortcomings of the service.

If Twitter does turn around and implement this kind of functionality, though, life could get interesting for these guys.